sarda rules 2009

never mind dude it is Slidewayz

think about this- standard ???johnson 540 can whip most ss. Imagine if you doctored a st the same way? The Rockerfellas will be wailing and knashing teeth I suppose they will ban us using it then

it is going to be interesting to see how they are going to inforce everything...

them crazy dudes at EL nats were running in the 15-16sec bracket and ss around 15.5sec for Ray and Ashley. Andy, Robert and Luca also ran 16.8sec -17.4sec or so and our best ss club times are around 16sec. mmmmm, makes you think hey?

FusionBrad wrote:whos G?

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slide - I definately am not against the evolvement of the hobby, as everything in life evolves so must our chosen sport, but as you say, so long as it is kept fair for all I am all for it. If not, I will not be racing in the same class as the BL rockafellas.

As for this sport tuned vs superstock, I don't know so much. Will watch next year very closely with abated breath.

slidewayz wrote:them crazy dudes at EL nats were running in the 15-16sec bracket and ss around 15.5sec for Ray and Ashley. Andy, Robert and Luca also ran 16.8sec -17.4sec or so and our best ss club times are around 16sec. mmmmm, makes you think hey?

You must also take into account that with ss you are braking and cornering alot slower than you are in stock which is where stock makes up time, but on straight line the ss will whip both st and s.

brandon ran a 16.3sec lap with a st on stop watch on sunday. Best legal ss time at club so far is 16.083sec. Not too far off buds! We cant wait for race day!

at the nats we were not allowed to run lipos and weight and everything else was spot on. What times were Robert and the gang doing at the national, I cant remember? I was on the money at the national, only Antonio and Anderton went faster than me so I think my times were respectable. Longer tracks or should I say tracks where you can gear the life out of the motor like East London it is not uncommon for stock to be fast. TRAP I think was similar. The s/stock power is only visible on initial acceleration and then when the motor revs out at the end of the straight.
I raced stock at Uitenhage last weekend and it is a lot of fun and even there my stock times came close to my own superstock times. THat I think it is why SARDA is trying to get rid of the stock class so there is a bigger gap between the classes.
Just remember one thing, our biggest class is currently the tt01 class and that is not a national class. Do what works for you as a club. Take into consideration what would be in the best interest of the club's members since they are the club.

I am with you there bud, you have to look after your members, no members, no club! I am sure we can get together and sort something out. If I remember correctly, it has been recommended that we have a 'newbies' stock class and a 'veterans' stock class, for the more experienced peeps. They will run at the same time, but have seperate championships. Max 2 seasons in newbies class. The cars will run together so there will never be a case where only 1 or 2 cars are on track if some peeps dont rock up. If there are more than 10 drivers, then we will split the mains with the 'vets' in a- mains where possible or the current championship points will be taken into consideration when selecting which drivers are in which mains. Obviously the newbies then have the quick guys to compare themselves to, while they can still realistically win their championship. We all have chassis already, so this should work for us. Anything to add 4eva?

also with the championship thing keep it as 1 class make it hand out motor or limit final drive ratio or gearing
my 20c

also we are trying to create a tto1 class

the reason why sarda want to go brushless is to prevent some guys from doing what they are to get so much out of a handout motor. It is very demoralizing when some oaks laps experienced campaigners like christo in a newby class. The person I am talking about was not on the pace in superstock so he clearly knows something the rest of us dont.
Handout motors is an option but people should not be allowed to do anything to motors, not even clean them. One individual should be responsible for prepping the motors.
Brushless solves all this in a way, just the initial layout. I almost fell on my back when I did some shopping the other day. The systems that can run mods is silly expensive but the other classes are not to bad. In the region of 2k for motor and speedo.